Air Atlanta Icelandic

Iceland flagIceland | Charter / Leisure airline
2.4
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4 reviews Fleet: 15 On order:
ICAO: ABDIATA: CCCallsign: ATLANTAFounded: 1986

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Stay away

2.0 Star icon Captain - Former employee
Mar. 31, 2023
Cross markRecommended to other Pilots Cross markPositive business outlookCross markApproval of management

Pros

Due to extremely high turnover upgrades usually happen fairly close to pilots reaching the minimum hourly requirements.

Cons

No job guarantee, no financial security, extremely low pay, old and rapidly ageing fleet, no seniority, permanent discrimination, extremely low morale, very toxic work environment.

Advice to management

No use for any advice. They know exactly what they are doing and will not change the situation until they will be forced to do so by legal requirements (which will not happen anytime soon due to the special status of Iceland)

Advice to future employees

Simply stay away, this is absolutely no career choice for the long term!

However cool it may seem flying a 747 - DON'T fall into this trap!

2.0 Star icon First Officer - Current employee
May. 17, 2023
Cross markRecommended to other Pilots Cross markPositive business outlookCross markApproval of management

Pros

the opportunity to get heavy jet experience

Cons

Bogus self-employment, typically combined with management by fear of losing your job. No stable income, no stable rosters, no loyalty towards/among personnel. Second rank treatment by the Icelandic Union Pilots. Toxic and disrespectful

Advice to management

Treat your contractor-pilots with respect / dignity and stop exploiting them just because you think/know you can. Treat them equal to the union pilots.

Advice to future employees

Stay away.

Nice workplace

4.1 Star icon First Officer - Current employee
Oct. 30, 2023
CheckmarkRecommended to other Pilots CheckmarkPositive business outlookCheckmarkApproval of management

Pros

Flexible work patterns, future fleet development look positive with the B777 introduction, good hotel standard, short upgrade time, good training, a lot of interesting destinations, great colleagues.

Cons

Unstable rosters, lack of fixed routes, no travel benefits.

Advice to management

Increase pay, offer more fixed roster patterns, ensure equality in work distribution.

Advice to future employees

It's an ACMI operator so the schedule is unstable by nature, don't think it's like flying for a national carrier, flexibility is the name of the game and as long as you realise that, this is a nice place to work. Sign up for a fixed roster pattern if offered, it's the best way to get stability in work and income.

Definitely NOT a nice workplace!

1.4 Star icon First Officer - Former employee
Mar. 24, 2024
Cross markRecommended to other Pilots Cross markPositive business outlookCross markApproval of management

Pros

Once pilots realize what a inhuman workplace they have gotten themselves into they run away again as soon as they can, so turnover is extremely high. F/Os who manage to stick around until they reach the legal hourly requirements will be upgraded unless they really screw up drastically during the assessment. They have been upgrading those who started as cruise relief pilot a few years ago, making them the least experienced widebody captains on the planet with barely 200 landings on anything bigger than a four seater. If a 747 captaincy is what you are looking for, this is by far the fastest you will be able to get one!

Cons

Management is not even considering raising the daily rate by at least the inflation rate like most other companies have done after covid. The "salary" has not been increased for many years and is now the LOWEST among all 747/777 operators. However, 777 pilots who just joined the company get a higher daily rate than 747 pilots who have been in the company for much longer because the "market value" of a 777 rating is higher and they can barely find 777 pilots on the market anymore who are stupid enough to accept their T/Cs.

Advice to management

Any management displaying this kind of disregard for employees and basic rules of how to run a company decently will not listen to any advice, so I won't even bother to suggest what would be needed to make this a tolerable workplace.

Advice to future employees

A word of advice if you consider to apply: You will be given a "contractor" status. The company will not pay you a regular monthly salary. They will leave you at home on "unpaid leave" as soon as business is slow and they don't need you. As a contractor you will not make any money unless you are on duty, so when you are on unpaid leave (or sick or unable to work for other reasons) you will not earn A DIME! You will NOT get a loan from any bank with such a contract, and that is a serious issue! You will also be responsible for your own health insurance and your social security payments in your country of residence. In most EU countries this kind of contract will not be accepted by any social insurance agency because the employer does not pay anything. You will have to pay taxes, health insurance and social security payments if you want to retire on a pension some day. If you deduct these payments from your daily rate you will most likely earn more money driving a truck or working on a conveyor belt, and I mean this SERIOUSLY!

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